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Naked with Nurses

vitruvian-man-leonardo-da-vinciSomeone asked me what nurses think about when their patients undress. For the most part, we’re thinking, “damnit, when’s my coffee break?” We never really look for anything on your body except abnormalities, scars, bruises etc. – this is required for our notes. Basically, if you look like the picture in the anatomy and physiology book, then there is nothing to see and we eagerly move along. Female nurses have an easier time dealing with female patients than they do with males. In fact I felt anxiety when I was assigned to the male ward in the hospital I worked for. They called it the snake park. It was difficult to work there as a new nurse. I didn’t want to deal with that. It was when I had to put on a condom catheter for a patient that I realized that it’s twice as uncomfortable for the patient as it is for the nurse. I didn’t want to be there but at least I was allowed to keep my clothes on! The patient swatted my hand away as I was about to put the catheter on for him. I left him alone until I could find a male nurse to help him. It’s unfortunate that nursing is female dominated and it’s not always possible to find a male nurse. I was actually grateful that he refused to let me help him. It’s acceptable for the patient to refuse a procedure but it is unacceptable for the nurse to refuse to perform her duties unless she has a really good reason to refuse.

As time passed I felt less and less awkward about it. Though I much preferred working in a female-only ward.

Then there are the freakishly obese, absurdly skinny and deformed people – I admit to gasping inwardly at the sight of some of these bodies. Especially those who’ve lost limbs to gangrene and other diseases. It’s shocking to see what a disease can do. It’s however in our nature to quickly look the person in the eye, smile and go on to performing your duties.

To answer the question simply, for me, it was never about how sexy or unsexy a person is. I can’t speak for all nurses but I felt the need to rush through the procedures as quickly as possible and have the patient get dressed as quickly as possible. If you can pick, choose a nurse that’s of a gender you feel comfortable undressing in front of. If you don’t have a choice because there are no male nurses available (as is often the case), don’t let your anxiety prevent you from seeking the medical help you require. You most likely look just as normal as a clothed person to the nurse that probably saw hundreds of naked people before you and still has hundreds more to come after you. Also we are taught in nursing school to do our best to preserve the dignity of the patient. That includes, keeping the patient dressed or at least partially dressed most of the time. We are taught to cover the patient and expose only the necessary parts of the body for the procedure at hand. If you don’t feel it’s necessary to be completely naked, speak up instead of getting upset about it. The medical staff will respect your wishes and find a way to make you feel comfortable. If your never-nude policy prevents you from getting the treatment you need, you really need to figure out your priorities.

Seeing so many naked people has its side effects on nurses though. While people often say you can never see too many naked people, I have a feeling I am not the only nurse that would disagree on that sentiment. Nurses become desensitized to the sexiness of a naked body. I was walking on the beach, amused at the look of awe on my friends face as he stared at the half naked people on the beach. To me there was nothing hot about it. Basic anatomy intact – nothing special. Oh well, at least I am one of the few people who go to the beach just to be on the beach…FML…

  • Don’t know how you did it. Cleaning the shitty butt of an overweight woman who is not your mother? Too much. Why was she in ‘ankle’ cuffs anyway?

  • Arkadia

    @fe1eb8eb1f41080ff5b30082e2b853f0:disqus haha! You gotta do what you gotta do..*shivers*. She was a prisoner that needed med care. We’re a public hospital but we get a lot of prisoners being escorted by guards from the nearby prison.

  • Waffle

    “I was walking on the beach, amused at the look of awe on my friends face as he stared at the half naked people on the beach.”  Boy you said it here!

    I once had to do a procedure on an “exotic dancer”… I was like, “Meh”.

    Not sure how I feel about that LOL

    • Arkadia

      The curse of a nurse…first it’s awkward and uncomfortable, then it becomes such a regular occurence, you don’t even notice that a person is naked until they ask for a gown or something to cover up with! I doubt I’d find anything interesting to see on a nude beach…unless a face is growing outside someones’ back!

      • thenose

        You should notice whether a person is naked, and you should take the proper action to make sure that patient is comfortable, and has their modesty respected, in your case, especially if the patient is male…. we are not a ward of snakes. We have feelings, and not all of us want to be on display for your or your co-workers viewing.

        • William

          Female nurses don’t want to make male patients comfortable because being women they actually ENJOY the embarrassment some men feel about having to expose their private parts to opposite gender. The deeper the embarrassment the deeper the joy of the female nurse. The hidden fact is that the female nurses are LAUGHING at the male patients.

          • thenose

            I’m not sure all female nurses enjoy seeing men naked, but some do, and fully take advantage of the position, and not all female nurses are respectful and sensitive to the modesty of men. Its sort of “expected” that man are supposed to succumb to being seen naked by woman in the medical profession, yet at the same time, they will promote ALL FEMALE breast clinics (where male nurses have trouble getting employed) and ALL FEMALE gyno clinics as well. Men are hard pressed to find ALL MALE clinics for men ( where male nurses are employed as well) The last thing I want when I go to see a Urologist, is to have a female doctor and a female chaperone come through the door. I’m not saying a female can’t do the job, but I am saying that if a man wants to have a male doctor AND a male nurse, he should be afforded “the choice”, not tossed whom-ever, and expected to suck it up. Men DO want modesty. We are not just a room full of snakes ready to pounce. We have feelings too.

          • William

            I didn’t say they enjoy seeing them naked, I said they enjoy the embarrassment men feel when seen nude by the nurse. If a man gets embarrassed and feels humiliated at having to expose his genitalia secretly the female nurses enjoy that. They’ve embarrassed men and they love it.
            “Are you embarrassed, oh ha ha ha ha ha.Oh look at your body oh HA HA HA HA HA HA.”

          • William

            When I go to hospital I do everything I can to show them that I’m not embarrassed even though I am, show embarrassment and they’ll do more to embarrass the male patient. A victory, bring down the male ego. I also never make a fuss because I repeatedly think” I’m male, to them I don’t matter, they don’t really care.” They only care for the dignity of the female patient and the child, NOT the male.

          • thenose

            I read both of your posts. I would fully agree with you in both posts. Perhaps there are some woman in medical services who would love the scenario you describe. There are also woman who LOVE it from a sexual perspective as well. When I read how females doing male exam say the penis is “just” another body part, I have ALWAYS said hogwash. There is NO WAY a female who found a man sexually attractive to her, could walk into an exam, having him exposing all of his parts to her, and doing a penis and prostate check, could not say in her mind ( So fine, so very fine – I love my job)

          • William

            When I was in a hospital a nurse taking stitches out of my leg kept taking crafty glances at my genitalia, why would she do that if that part of the male body is supposed to mean nothing. Some nurses have told me I’m right in what I say but there’s nothing we can do to change it except ask for male staff.

          • thenose

            What woman say, and what they think, are not one in the same. I am coming from the perspective that if a female nurse or doctor is treating an old man, or someone obese, or just nasty, of course they would not feel any attraction and would easily be turned off. BUT if he were a hot young male, had a great body, easy on the eyes, and were attractive to the female nurse or doctor, she would be a damn liar to say she wasn’t turned on in the exam setting or wouldn’t in the very least enjoy seeing his privates. I don’t believe a female doctor or nurse can shut off her vagina and feelings in an intimate exam with an attractive male patient. She can be professional and all but she will think deeper thoughts in her own mind in the exam and afterwards.

          • William

            TOTALLY agree. Whenever a nurse speaks about her job it’s ALWAYS the nude male patient she speaks about. I worked for an ex medical family, he was a Nephrologist and his wife an ex senior nursing officer. She was talking at the dinner table about her experiences with nude male patients to her daughter. The daughter asked “Did you see naked men?” “Yes” she answered. The daughter gave a shy look. Same old subject from al layers of nursing, the nude male patient. It’s laugh for them.

          • thenose

            I had a friend at work who went through a bitter divorce with his wife who was an RN. He told me once in talks with his wife (while they were having sex of course) that sometimes when a hot patient was in the ward, and she found him attractive, she would invite one of her nurse friends from the nursing station to come down and help, just so “they” could view his genitals during the rounds…..make an excuse to check wraps so he would be exposed. Then later they would talk about him. This is one of the reasons I think the way I do. Based upon him telling me some of these stories, that in some ways pissed him off that they were doing that on the job. So when I hear nurses who come on the internet and say, “we view the penis just like any other body part” I call that BULLSHIT. They are liars.

          • William

            I totally believe you. When I was last in hospital in the ward opposite a nurse was working on a nude male patient with the door wide open to the corridor, everybody could see in, his dignity was compromised and she didn’t care. She told me that she had two children from 2 men and she never married so we had to expose our bodies to a slag.

          • thenose

            That’s terrible when a patients modesty is not respected, whether the patient is male or female. I am aware however that woman do in fact get much more respect for their modesty than men do. Females have access to “all female clinics” and “all female Breast centers” yet “all male clinics” are far and in between. Even then, there are females working as nurses in a lot of them. Case in point, while in the medical world, it is perfectly acceptable for a man to be seen for a physical, prostate and testicle exam, with a female NP, or doctor and a female chaperone. However reverse gender with a male doctor and male nurse is NEVER done. I call it BULLSHIT as well. I would go on the record to state that more MEN die of prostate cancer, than woman die of Breast Cancer. Male modesty is a part of that lop-sided medical equation. Men wont go to the doctor until often it is too late. Place being see by females to tal about their male issues, and most wont talk. They’de rather die. Changes need to be made.

  • Michelle

    Arkadia are you South African? if so, which city?

  • vigorousatheist

    I’m so sick and tired of these female nurses trying to say “we don’t look at you like that” or “we don’t care one bit if you’re nude”
    Bull. Fucking. Shit.

    Doesn’t matter what job you have, whether it’s an ER attendant or a Playgirl photographer taking 1000’s of nude male pics a day, you still like seeing nude males.
    At least nude males that are in-shape and attractive. Sure, most of the guys in the ER/hospital are obese, old & unappealing, but you know every once in a while an attractive guy comes in and you enjoy seeing him nude. Or you’re at least curious.
    You can train yourself to say “I swear! When Leonardo DiCaprio came in, i completely didn’t care what his penis looked like!”, but you’re not fooling anyone.

    Long story short, in-shape nude male bodies attract/intrigue you, it doesn’t matter what scenario it is. As long as his body isn’t severely mangled, you will be attracted to looking at his penis. You can deny it all you want, but once you stop blindly repeating stuff like “nurses don’t get attracted to nude patients” you too will notice how naive you were.

    • Arkadia

      The curse of a nurse…first it’s awkward and uncomfortable, then it becomes such a regular occurence, you don’t even notice that a person is naked until they ask for a gown or something to cover up with! I doubt I’d find anything interesting to see on a nude beach…unless a face is growing outside someones’ back!

    • Arkadia

      🙂 Intriguing. Are you a nurse? I am not opposed to your viewpoint but the point of the article was not to stroke the egos of sexy men with nice looking members…it was to assist people with getting over the anxiety of being naked with healthcare staff…particularly for those that feel bad about their bodies. I know a few people that have so much anxiety about being naked with strangers that they’d rather let that tumor grow than get it checked.

      When it comes to the male anatomy – I’ve never once heard a nurse say to me “Wow! Did you see the penis on that guy??!” – neither have I thought it out. To be quite honest, I am more concerned with getting the awkward examination/procedure out of the way and I do try to keep my eyes on his eyes instead of on his one-eyed snake…it’s more romantic like that. 😛

      I’ve had this convo with female nurses – they call the male ward the “snake park” and they are mostly terrified, especially new nurses…the trained ones handle those things like pros. That’s not to say I can’t appreciate an attractive in-shape body. It’s not really like a porn setting though…think about it…sick people, puke, blood, crap. It’s kinda a turn off unless it’s not…if you know what I mean…

      Now if you’re gonna talk about Leonardo DiCaprio – of course his penis would be of interest to many women. Heh!

      • vigorousatheist

        Yes, and the point of my comment was to expose this laughable lie that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for a nurse to be attracted/intrigued by a nude patient.
        Lets say a 6 foot tall man with abs and a nice body came into the er, but he only had a fever so he wasn’t mangled.
        You would be sexually intrigued at his nude body, no matter how professional you think you are.
        And you know damn well you’ve masturbated at least once thinking about a certain nude male patient.
        You might not remember it (or flat out lie) but you know it happened.
        Humans are attracted to other human’s bodies.
        End. Of. Story.

        • Arkadia

          Vigorous Atheist…it’s not impossible for a nurse to be attracted to a patient – I thought we already established that I’m in agreement with you on that.

          You’re overstepping by acting as though it’s impossible for the opposite scenario to happen too and that’s a very narrow viewpoint.

          If I was ever sexually attracted to a male patient, I’d gladly admit it. I’m not shy, religious, or afraid to speak up about it. If I did develop an attraction to a patient at any point, I’d probably write a post about it because this blog is about the challenges of this profession. The good, the bad, the ugly, the confusing and the awkward. It’s meant to be an outlet to express all those things we would never normally mention.

          The comment section is here for people to contribute to the post intelligently. If you are a nurse and you’re trying to tell us that you’ve fantasized about patients, then that’s a fair contribution to the post. Instead your argument is based on arbitrary assumptions. How would you know what my sexual fantasies are? Did I date you at some point? Perhaps I rejected you at the hospital? I know what it is – your nurse girlfriend cheated on you with a patient! You can lie about it but I know it happened!

          Can you see how irrational it is to make an assumption about what a stranger has or hasn’t experienced?

          I’ll try to indulge your fantasy though. It’s a big world and there could very well be nurses everywhere just dying to hop in your pants the moment you walk through the hospital doors…because that’s all that’s on their mind right? Not the kids that need dinner when they go home, or the husband that’s oiled up and waiting on a bed of rose petals, or the really ill patient on bed 6, or the doctor that’s being uncooperative, or the cold lunch that’ll probably never get eaten, or the backache from trying to move a comatosed patient, or the vomit stains on their uniform or the load of work you’re about to impose on them, not even the dead body they have to wrap up before their shift is over…no, they’re waiting to see your penis and wank to it. (note: sarcasm)

          The only valid statement you’ve made is that we’re all human and we can in fact be attracted to people in even the most bizarre setting. However your mistake is assuming that ALL nurses have experienced feeling attracted to patients and I hate to break it to you…that’s just not logical or true. Source: I’m a nurse!

          • vigorousatheist

            No, I’ve never had a nurse-girlfriend cheat on me.
            Mostly because i wouldn’t date nurses, as they are all disgusting, sexual deviants who only do their jobs so they can get free peep shows.
            You’re making it sound as if i’m saying that nurses hold conferences discussing each patient’s penis appearance (although i wouldn’t put it past women, who are all maliciously conniving and downright evil).
            Never said that -at least the first part-. I merely stated that females who are attracted to males, whether they be nurses or in any other scenario, like to look at penises. Even ones on certain male patients.
            This is something that you more or less admitted, and that 99% of female nurses deny.
            And this fact alone squashes the fairy tale that male patients shouldn’t be embarrassed about being nude in front of female nurses because just as you described, nurses think sexual thoughts too.
            And btw studies show that when women look at penises, they automatically compare them to past lovers -either subconsciously or not-. This, coupled with your admittance that you think sexual thoughts about certain male patients, means that us males SHOULD be given modesty in the medical environment, and it SHOULD be a norm to have male-male patients/nurses.

            If i ever go to the hospital, (no matter how badly injured i am) and any female nurse actually expects me to undress in front of her, i will tackle her, detain her until police arrive and try to have her charged with attempted sexual assault. Sure, that won’t happen, and I’ll probably do serious jail time for the tackling and “false police report”, but it would be well worth it to screw with her head and make her think twice about nonchalantly viewing nude male patients at her leisure in the future.
            You’ll let me fucking bleed out on the operating table before i allow you to humiliate me by making me put on a show for you to think about later when you’re rubbing one out.
            And before you start screaming “U R UMBARASSED CUZ U HAV SMAHL PEEPEE!”.
            Right, because it’s IMPOSSIBLE for a normal-length-penis man to feel embarrassed about being nude….
            I mean if you have double d titts, that automatically means you have no cares in the world about being seen nude, right?

          • Arkadia

            Sir, you’re officially scaring me. I’m really concerned for you. Did you suffer with sexual abuse or have you had too many issues with women in the past? If you read my comments again, you’ll hopefully see that I agree that it’s possible for nurses to be attracted to patients but I also stated that I’ve never experienced that myself at all. It’s too much of a depressing environment for me to have my head in the gutter. I’m usually too caught up in the sadness of our mortality as I get a first hand view of how the human race is suffering.

            If your concern is that you’re being objectified, then you can request male staff to tend to you. Also it’s your right to refuse to undress. If you need to go to surgery, they may require you to change into suitable clothing for surgery but you can change in a bathroom, or have your bed screened. It’s not standard for nurses to ask you to fully undress as we’re trained to maintain the dignity of the patient as much as possible by allowing them to remain as independent as possible and by keeping their bodies covered whenever possible only exposing areas that really have to be exposed for treatment. I really think you’re overthinking the situation and overestimating the number of nurses fantasizing about you. I can guarantee, in almost all cases, you will only be fully exposed if you’re unable to change your clothing, bathe or wipe your ass by yourself…if you’re in that kind of state, you’re not attractive at all, so you can rest assured…nobody will be rubbing one off for you.

            Further than that, I suggest that you seek counseling to help you overcome your hatred for women or female nurses. Not everyone is out to get you. There is clearly an underlying trauma affecting you. Wish you luck. Hope you find peace one day.

            EDIT: Having taken a look at your comment history on disqus – I see that you often go around spewing angry comments on blogs. If this is an attempt at trolling, then I won’t be entertaining or hosting your comments any longer. However if you’re actually just a struggling, traumatized soul who is genuinely in trouble and in need of assistance, I’d be happy to help you find some help or refer you to MALE co-workers who can assist you.

          • steven

            the dude is either ugly or is a fag so don’t worry about the freak. Most nurses don’t care about seeing male patients nude because it’s just a body, I prefer female nurses especialy when I’m naked. I feel very uncomfortable with male nurses seeing me naked becaue I can imagine what they r thinking too. Its just I feel right being een naked by any nure that are women, don’t care how she looks all I care she can be huge fat as long as shes a not no hemale nurse lol

          • ctrehjfjfjg

            steven, being homophobic isn’t helping.

            vigorousatheist, I have been in hospital and although medical staff in the UK don’t generally have you strip naked unless it’s necessary (I did recently have to change into a dry gown after falling in water, which left my bum exposed but hey, everyone has one), I do sleep naked and sometimes the covers slide off. Whilst there were a few nurses who frankly should have been in another profession, the majority of the nurses were caring and compassionate and when one saw me completely naked, she just carried on performing her duties professionally – the fact that I was naked was not important. She took bloods, chatted for a moment, and went on her way.

            To suggest that nurses just want to stare at naked men is ridiculous. The majority I’ve met went into the profession to help others. Considering the ridiculous amount of training they have to go through (admittedly less in the USA where many still seem to know nothing about foreskin or how incredibly important it is), and all the things they have to remember, plus the long hours, with difficult patients (those being intentionally difficult and those who are difficult because their medical condition has diverted resources away from their mental faculties), there are plenty of easier ways to look at men naked.

            If you attack a nurse for a simple request (rather than choosing to agree or refuse like a normal person), the police report against you is TRUE and you deserve to go to jail.

            Sure, for some nurses, maybe it livens up their night to see a hot male naked. But even if they’re enjoying the sight of me, I care more about getting better than whether they see my penis. One female nurse even had to do a rectal exam, which is a lot more intimate than a nurse just looking at me, but I can almost guarantee she was not enjoying it and just wanted to do her job professionally

          • thenose

            You are very mis informed. Some female nurses DO like to see male patients naked, and the female chaperones they use also look forward to seeing the exam.

          • steven

            er, dude you have issues, most nurses don’t enjoylooking at naked patients, second even if they do so what, whats it to you, dumbass. Most nurses are so professional that they never say anything to any male patients that are seen naked. I prefer woman nurse, after all, it’s normal for a woman to be a nurse.

          • ctrehjfjfjg

            steven, being homophobic isn’t helping.

            vigorousatheist, I have been in hospital and although medical staff in the UK don’t generally have you strip naked unless it’s necessary (I did recently have to change into a dry gown after falling in water, which left my bum exposed but hey, everyone has one), I do sleep naked and sometimes the covers slide off. Whilst there were a few nurses who frankly should have been in another profession, the majority of the nurses were caring and compassionate and when one saw me completely naked, she just carried on performing her duties professionally – the fact that I was naked was not important. She took bloods, chatted for a moment, and went on her way.

            To suggest that nurses just want to stare at naked men is ridiculous. The majority I’ve met went into the profession to help others. Considering the ridiculous amount of training they have to go through (admittedly less in the USA where many still seem to know nothing about foreskin or how incredibly important it is), and all the things they have to remember, plus the long hours, with difficult patients (those being intentionally difficult and those who are difficult because their medical condition has diverted resources away from their mental faculties), there are plenty of easier ways to look at men naked.

            If you attack a nurse for a simple request (rather than choosing to agree or refuse like a normal person), the police report against you is TRUE and you deserve to go to jail.

            Sure, for some nurses, maybe it livens up their night to see a hot male naked. But even if they’re enjoying the sight of me, I care more about getting better than whether they see my penis. One female nurse even had to do a rectal exam, which is a lot more intimate than a nurse just looking at me, but I can almost guarantee she was not enjoying it and just wanted to do her job professionally.

          • naftali216

            Egad, you are so wrong as I’ve worked with nurses of both tendencies. You definitely have anger issues that need treatment. I believe you may be transferring some of your own inadequacies about yourself toward nurses in general.

          • Paul

            find it ironic that nursing is all about caring about the patient as someone who is a victim of three nurses voyeurism, I can absolutely tell you (in America) American female nurses are the worst. You know, you sit here in judgment of other men who were victims of women’s abuses, yet rather than showing empathy for what happened and reporting the nurses for the bad behavior, the voyeurism and the poor treatment of male patients. You make it seem like the man is the one with the problem, not the women who created it. These women need to get help, then can he be at peace, just as I can. My experience was I was gang raped in high school by two fat boys. The female dean refused to do anything about it, because it would hurt the reputation of the school. When I was in the hospital for it because of a twisted scrotum. It was my last day in the hospital, i was still on the meds, which i feel the nurse knew this would make me feel more complaint. They tok turns coming in and saying the exact same thin. “I need to see your stitched today, because the doctor is not coming in.” The doctor came in 1 minute after the third nurse told me that. How do you think I felt after that Then to top it off my sister wanted to see what I liked like. I said with an emphatic no! and told her she was sick for even suggesting it. And every week in America another female teacher gets busted for sex with her student. 1. No All boys don’t want it. (if you say that they do, then I will say all girls dressed sultrily want to be raped.) 2. They are not in a stage where they can make an informed consent decision. 3. Even if they do want it, does it mean its good for them? I agree with one of the posters here. I do not beige one piece of shit a woman tells me when it is different for her. Actions speak louder than words. And the so called sisterhood needs to shut down and drive out these women. PS. Also, when I was getting an x-ray for my knee gingery in a different situation, I overheard the female nurses talking about how they liked to pull down the g-strings of the male dancers at the club they would go to.

      • thenose

        Wow,,,, you refer to male anatomy as a Nurse, as a “One eyed snake” ? How derogatory and unprofessional. How would you like me to call your female anatomy a “snatch”, or a “Box” or a “Hooch” or “Bang box” …. and you all call it a snake park? HEY…listen… YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB, knowing damn well you would have to see penis’s… we are sorry as males that you have to see us…. let alone make fun of our anatomy. Don’t tell me for one minute you wouldn’t be turned on by a good looking male. You are a damn liar.I had a friend who had a bitter divorce from his RN wife, and they DID talk about men’s penis’s at the Nursing station. Woman whom deny like I read here is bullshit.

    • naftali216

      I agree with you because I’ve heard female nurses talk about male patients. One time they deliberately went in to see a patient (whether assigned to him or not) just to see him in his underwear. They also looked at Playgirl magazines in the nursing station. If I as a male RN did any of that with a female or had Playboy or Hustler I’d be out on my ear and lose my license. There IS a double standard and anyone who says otherwise is a liar!

      • thenose

        The truth comes out….. anyone who says that female nurses (even on occasion) don’t “admire” being able to “see” certain good looking male patients parts…. they would be a liar.

  • A Banterings

    the question to ask is how does the patient feel? when you are the only person in the room without clothes, who cares how the nurse feels?

    not one mention about the patient here. soooo caring.

    did you know that patients “pressured” into undressing have the same experience as victims of sexual assault?

    • ctrehjfjfjg

      Actually it depends on the patient. I was pressured into having a rectal exam (for my own health due to a serious illness), and I didn’t feel uncomfortable when the female nurse actually did it. And a nurse can see if a patient looks uncomfortable.

  • thenose

    Arkadia, in your story, you mention all fat woman etc… and gross subjects. I could understand it totally. Its gross. But would you feel the exact same way if you were taking care of 2 or three young men your same age to whom on the street, you would find very highly attractive? Could you still hold back your feelings? Would you look? Would you feel nervous around them? Place your self in that situation where your patient was very good drop dead a hunk. Would your story be the same? Be honest. You wouldn’t cop a look? I am totally serious.

  • thenose

    The biggest issue here is not whether nurses get turned on. From experience, the biggest issue here is the lack of male nurses for men who want them. Males are certainly not given the same respect in modesty that woman are offered. Let me give you a life example. I went to my doctors office for a “scheduled male physical” The exam would include a prostate and testicle/penis check. I was told when I arrived that the “Nurse Practitioner” (who was female) did all the physicals. To be fair, I agreed to the exam. I hadn’t had a physical in 10 years, and I felt it was important. So when it came time for the prostate exam, the NP excused herself and came back with a knock on the door, and another younger female with a blue uniform on to be my chaperon. This is what I later learned that men call an ambush. I was never asked if I wanted a chaperon, whether I would mind a female chaperon, nor was I asked whether I wanted a male chaperon. It was expected that I take what I got. Tell me how many times you will see 2 males, a male chaperon and Doctor during a pap, and or breast exam…… I bet it never happens and or is quite rare. It is bad enough having 1 female, but 2 females for a male exam is very embarrassing. I remember looking the female chaperon in the face, and she looked directly at my penis and testicles during the exam. If you want to read more, read what happens during male sports physicals in High Schools at this link. Tell me again that those females do not get turned on at all seeing hundreds of young males jocks in High School. I’m sorry, I don’t believe they don’t. This link is well worth reading.

    Here is the link, by a medical doctor.: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/08/sports-physicals-includes-provisions-privacy.html

    • ctrehjfjfjg

      Most males prefer female doctors, that’s why nurses just assume; they don’t expect a guy to be different from the norm. Plus obviously guys have different anatomy from girls and a lot of things are more acceptable because our genitals are not internal so things aren’t seen as intrusive – for example, if a woman grabs a guy’s balls, it’s seen, at most, as assault, not sexual assault, and there was a movie (In the Realm of the Senses) that showed an adult woman grabbing and pulling the penis of a young boy, and it was considered acceptable and legal.

      It’s just the way things are – males are not allowed to have as much respect for their privacy as females, and can be touched intimately without their consent by females. It’s something they simply have to get used to, as there’s nothing they can legally ever do about it.

      • thenose

        What effing planet do you live on? Did you actually say “Males are not allowed to have as much respect for their privacy as females?” Shake your head, I bet it rattles. OF COURSE Males ARE allowed the SAME ACCESS TO PRIVACY as females, if they aren’t given modesty, or privacy, then vote with your feet, tell the female nurse(s) or female NPs or doctors to go get bent, and find another practice for your medical care.

        I have a friend/co worker who went through a BITTER divorce. He used to tell me his RN-Nurse wife would talk to her co-workers about patients penis’s, and often on shift would egg on her co-workers to “aid her” in changing wraps, bandages etc, for a good peak at his anatomy to compare and talk about at the nurses station. So Nurses who tell you they just find one body, like another, and have no feelings whatsoever are lying. If she is “straight” and possess a vagina with a clitoris, she IS or HAS thought about it during a exam.

        Nurses will swear up and down in forums like this, that it isn’t the case, but then again, they are in a principle position to protect their job, and the nursing field. Of Course NO female nurse will come on the internet, and 100% admit they get turned on in an exam with a hot male patient. She would most likely have a visit to her local medical board to see if she is fit for work, and probably undergo a psych exam.

        So the answer is: Do “some” nurses get turned on? YES …YES they do. But NONE will admit it. I have the overwhelming proof through my friend who had a wife RN Nurse. They fought about it ALL THE TIME. It ended in divorce.

  • There are two rather terrifying fellows below in the comments who, despite being male, claim to possess the capacity to read the minds of the opposite sex and INSIST that they are capable of this feat.

    See, when you’re a certain person and you insist that YOU know how an entirely DIFFERENT kind of person thinks in the privacy of his/her mind, you are exhibiting very advanced signs of schizophrenia. You are transposing YOUR proclivities onto people who are NOT YOU.

    I watched a sick exposé about clubs in Thailand where American men went to pay $$$$ for seeing 8 to 10 year old girls. In the lounge where the guys could drink and talk before gong to the bed areas, one guy said to the undercover guy (who recorded this), “You just KNOW these little girls feel SO lucky that we want them! You just KNOW that old, used up 12 y.o.s are P!SSED that nobody wants them anymore. You just KNOW that the only reason every man in the world isn’t xxxxing these cute little hotties is because WOMEN shame them out of it, because they want to keep us for themselves. It’s every man’s right, it’s what normal men think about, you know that NO man wants anything older than 10.”

    THAT guy is only sicker than vigorousatheist & thenose because he talks about KNOWING how other people think, but he also admits to xxxxing little kids. These other two just insist that, like the sicko in Thailand, THEY happen to KNOW how other people think… JUST BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT WAY THEMSELVES!

  • dennis richardson

    Women are going to be voting for Hillary Clinton in large percentages due to the fact that divorce is running rampant in America. These women are democrats and are frequently middle age or even younger without a husband, with children and under employed. Many men are also under employed. LOVE and MARRIAGE needs to make a come back in America. These facts you all know.

    I am NOT pure as white snow in my thoughts. My arguments with almost all women I have ever known over liberal verses conservative politics has left me with a negative attitude about women and romantic love. An economic and spiritual revival must happen in America to restore romantic love that leads to stable marriage. The Masonic Lodges did it with the Rockefeller Foundation and the CFR in America.

    A Jubilee is coming, Donald Trump will NOT bring it to be, it will happen before the November election, someone else more powerful than him will cause it. Stable Marriage and Love must happen for the sake of a very small next generation in America. America is in grave danger due to inadequate child birth, Patrick J Buchanan has told you this.

    • thenose

      Didn’t matter if woman did vote for Hillary Clinton now does it…….

  • It has nothing to do withe being attractive or not, it is all about the abuse of the power differential that exists between the naked, injured/ill patient, and a room full of fully dressed doctors, nurses, techs, etc.

    Read “White coat, patient gown” ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24687912 ) if you do not understand the power differential and the potential for iatrogenic psychological trauma.

    As for it being just a body, does 4 years of nursing schooling nullify millions of years of evolution? We are sexual beings and our bodies and minds react to sexual cues whether we want them to or not.

    As for berating anyone who worries about the preservation of their dignity and mental well being, read the following links about how nurses, doctors, and other providers have abused naked patients.

    Anyone who removes their clothes in a healthcare setting should fear pictures of their body being taken without their permission and posted on the internet forever.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/abusive-photos-on-social-media-pose-rising-threat-to-nursing-home-patients/2015/12/19/d71b4204-9ec8-11e5-bce4-708fe33e3288_story.html

    http://nypost.com/2016/03/29/nurse-loses-license-over-patient-penis-pics/

    http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/nursing-home-staff-warned-about-degrading-patient-photos/305289950

    http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/mar/05/nurses-fired-picture-patient-x-ray/

    https://www.opensesame.com/blog/hipaa-myths-and-social-media-violations

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/nursing_assistant_sentenced_to.html

    http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/healthcare/photos-dying-patient-posted-to-facebook-get-four-hospital-workers-fired

    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/01/doctors_on_social_media_share_embarrassing_photos_details_of_patients.html

    Even photos taken for medical education can be abusive (“torture”). Read the 2013 publication by the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, deemed this treatment [“medical display”] as a form of torture.

    http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session22/A.HRC.22.53_English.pdf

    I find it hard to believe that anyone working in a healthcare facility (for more than 6 months) has never encountered a coworker making inappropriate comments about the anatomy of a patient.

    Labelling someone with concerns of their dignity as mentally ill is a strategy used by healthcare to exert power over patients. Read Joan Emerson’s SSRN, nursing paper, Behaviour in Private Places: Sustaining Definitions of Reality in Gynecological Examinations ( papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1312385 ).

    Finally, let me finish my comment with these stories of Dr. Twana Sparks MD, “The ENT Surgeon Who Gave Genital Exams ” ( http://www.outpatientsurgery.net/resources/forms/2010/pdf/OutpatientSurgeryMagazine_1001_ent.pdf ) and Dr. Nikita Levy, the Johns Hopkins Hospital gynecologist who secretly photographed or filmed patients during gynecological exams ( http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-levy-settlement-allocation-20150928-story.html ).

  • Steve

    All female nurses are perverts and unprofessional